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The Game Plan T1D Podcast: Episode 10 Billy Fredrick

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Sam Benger

Published on Oct 7, 2018



This episode of the Game Plan T1D Podcast features T1D athlete Billy Fredrick. After his diagnosis of T1D, Billy went on to play baseball for UC Santa Barbara in the College World Series. In addition to Diabetes, Billy is also a cancer survivor. His story is one of unwavering resilience and is sure to provide inspiration to all listeners. Tune in now!



hey guys Sam here with game playing to

you Andy I'm really excited because this

is episode number 10 for us we finally

cracked double digits and it doesn't

seem like much but I'm proud of the

platform so far and I'm so grateful to

all our guests and everyone who helped

us get to where we are today that being

said there's plenty more work to do to

ensure that we continue to bring you

guys stories of inspiration and insight

and success over adversity today's

episode we're coming to you with a

moving story of positivity and

resiliency Billy frederick who recently

graduated from UC santa barbara played

baseball in the College World Series

Billy is continuing his athletic

endeavors after college with some new

and exciting challenges which we will

discuss in the episode in addition to

t1d Billy is a cancer survivor

his relentless spirit was incredibly

powerful to hear it was a pleasure

getting a chance to speak with him

please enjoy my conversation with Billy

Frederick all right

well with that welcome to the game plan

to und podcast

I'm your host Sam bender on the game

plan to und podcast we explore the lives

of successful athletes and performers

living with t1d to try to uncover what

it is that allows them to excel despite

their diabetes today on the show I'm

lucky enough to be able to be joined by

Billy Frederick Billy how are you doing

I am doing great thanks for having me

Sam yes my pleasure definitely excited

for this conversation based on your

background but for the audience why

don't you take this chance to kind of

tell the audience who you are where

you're coming from and kind of give them

a little bit of a background on who you

are sure so yeah my name is Billy

Frederick I live in California

so I was I've been a baseball player my

whole life since I was five ever since

t-ball so when I hit age 11 I was at

baseball practice I remember this and I

had no energy whatsoever I could barely

move so my my dad took me out of

practice and we went to the hospital and

we got my my blood checked and I say

was 695 was my blood sugar so yeah so my

doctor told me that I had type 1

diabetes and my asked him can i still

play baseball and he said yes absolutely

he told me that he would prefer that I

stay active you know it it helps my

blood sugar so that was that was good

news there so yeah that was when I was

11 and I continued to play baseball in

Little League right after that I got a

Medtronic insulin pump I think when I

was 12 it was not long after I was

diagnosed I got my pump and I've been

using Medtronic ever since for you know

about 12 years or so I'm 23 now and I

really like it the pump definitely

helped when I would play play sports and

exercise and also it's a lot nicer too

because I don't have to shoot insulin

into me whenever I eat so that's nice

but yeah so I continue to play baseball

and was lucky enough to get a

scholarship to UC Santa Barbara and

played there for four years and we made

the College World Series in 2016 and

Omaha Nebraska that was so much fun we

were on the road for 23 days we stopped

at Nashville to play regionals against

Vanderbilt and then we went to

Louisville Kentucky to play the

University of Louisville for Super

Regionals and then we went to Omaha

Nebraska to with the other 7 remaining

teams for the World Series my mom had to

ship me insulin and pump supplies

because I was running low after the 23

days but yeah that was the time in my

life so much fun it was in 2017 last

year finish playing baseball and I

graduated from UCSB and so yeah we're we

find ourselves at this point now and I'm

still trying to remain active I am

continuing to lift weights and I'm

preparing to climb Mount Whitney in

California it's the highest mountain in

the contiguous United States so that's

my next goal that I want to have you

know I'm not a goal based goal oriented

guy you know I always have to have to

face a channel

you know and after baseball is done I

wanted to challenge so that's what I'm

trying to do and oh and I also got a

freestyle Libre blood sugar monitor

continuous blood sugar monitor and I

really like it my blood sugar has been

really good ever since I got it I

checked my seven-day average yesterday

and it was 135 I think Wow so yeah it's

just been it's been really helping I

really like it that's fantastic yeah

that's you know there's so much to your

story as we were kind of talking before

this recording so I want to kind of

proceed in a somewhat chronological

order I wanted to go back to your

childhood growing up and kind of how you

found that passion for baseball you

mentioned that your dad actually built a

batting cage in your backyard yeah yeah

so do you remember this period sort of

pre-diabetes and what was that sort of

like when you discovered that you had a

passion for baseball yeah my dad put me

in t-ball when I was five and at that

point I was like okay whatever you know

I didn't really enjoy it didn't really

hate it I just I just did it because my

dad told me to do it a couple years

later I really started to enjoy it and

loved it and yeah so I was about you

know seven or eight yeah my dad built a

batting cage in our backyard made out of

PVC pipe and we laid this netting over

it so it was basically a PVC pipe sort

of box structure and we laid netting

over it and then my dad bought a

pitching machine so he measured out the

pitching machine distance from home

plate to major-league distance and he

would crank it up to you know 95 you

know not this was not when I was eight

but when I was older in high school like

you would he would crank it up to 95 and

we would have you know major league

simulation batting practice and me and

my dad did that a lot and me and my dad

were talking about it and we really

enjoyed those days me and him hanging

out in the backyard during the summer

and hitting it was a lot of fun I really

enjoyed it yeah that sounds like a dream

type of situation kind of father-son

scenario but also development as a

baseball player as well because

obviously your

baseball falling in love with the sport

and then we kind of have a shaky period

you know a diagnosis at age 11 what was

that period like what was the transition

process for you obviously at 11 you're

still very young but at the same time

there are parts of your life that have

kind of started to solidify from you

know what foods you prefer to eat to

kind of just how you go about your life

so what was that transition period like

for you yeah it was difficult at first

well one thing that I really remember is

being embarrassed about it it was during

the summer this happened and so I had to

leave baseball early and just take time

off you know to get my blood sugar down

and figure out how to take insulin how

much to take you know how many carbs are

in food all that stuff so so it took me

like a long time before I got back into

the swing of things but I remember I was

being I was really embarrassed my

parents told me when I go back to school

in the fall that I have to tell two of

my best friends that I'm diabetic so

they would know how to help me if I went

into shock or anything so I remember

telling my my two best friends and that

was really nervous and embarrassed about

it but as time passed I I learned to

accept it and be proud of Who I am and I

did have to change my diet a little bit

obviously I had to take shots every time

I ate before the pump so it was hard to

get shots you know four times a day five

times a day it was hard because before I

would just go to the doctor's office

once a year and get get a flu shot or

hit some shot and that would be it but

this became a daily thing and that was a

hard thing to deal with but again over

time I just got used to it and learn to

accept it but it wasn't it wasn't an

easy process that's for sure yeah I

think it certainly takes time as is the

case with anything but I wanted to ask

Billie during that period after your

diagnosis and heading into high school

heading into college were there any

diabetic failures or or instances where

you had a severe

hello that sort of served as a learning

experience for you well I would say

fortunately no nothing serious I never

had to go to the hospital or anything

for any highs or lows but I I did have a

time where I was at a baseball game and

my blood sugar was high so I took

insulin and I didn't allow enough time

for the insulin to work so I checked my

blood about 20 minutes later and it

wasn't coming down really so I took more

insulin and then I checked 10 minutes

later and it still wasn't where I wanted

it so I took more insulin and luckily it

didn't get dangerous but I went really

low and I had to come out of the game

and sit it out but that was definitely a

learning experience for me right there

not to over stack the insulin and let it

work yeah and my my dad made sure I'd

never did that again he had a long talk

with me never to do that mm-hmm yeah I

think I've certainly experienced that as

well and when you're trying to battle

cortisol and stress especially in an

athletic situation like before a game

your body just does not respond as it

normally does to insulin and obviously

you want to perform at a high level so

you're really trying to drive down that

insulin drive down that blood sugar with

excess amounts of insulin and then all

of a sudden you're playing and it kind

of catches up with you so I think that's

a really common thread amongst athletes

that other people with d1d and athletics

need to be aware of

give yourself yeah normal bolus even if

you are you know 300 before a game

because if you do over bolus and you

really try to drive it down aggressively

you're going to crash and obviously it's

better to err on the side of caution

during a game yeah

and I noticed that stress really really

influences my blood sugar I can go high

so quickly and that's one thing I always

had to take note of my my nervousness

level I was really nervous I would

expect to be high you know did you try

to come up with any sort of coping

mechanism for the stress be it like a

breathing pattern

or something like that or was it more

just a general awareness of that well

yeah I learned to be more aware of my

stress level that was that was a big

thing but as time went on I started to

get less nervous before games especially

throughout college but yeah I never

adopted a like a breathing technique or

anything to to cope with my stress maybe

I should have that that sounds like a

good idea yeah I've heard some athletes

adopt that and Chris Freeman who was an

Olympic cross-country skier who we had

the who he had on the show was actually

a big proponent of that and he said as I

kind of went through this cycle of

breathing I could actually see on my CGM

my blood Sugar's start to plateau and

eventually come down so it works while

people I think to just like you said a

general awareness of that is really

important as well but I wanted to get to

your time at UC Santa Barbara I'm

extremely jealous of the school

relocation I'm a huge Southern

California fan even though I'm from

Boston but tell us a little bit about

how you came to settle on that school

and what the the recruitment process was

like and obviously the transition as

well into playing college athletics yeah

so my dad sent out a bunch of my

highlight tapes to colleges he like put

it on a DVD and he said he sent it all

around California and stuff like that

and UCSB liked it and they had me come

and they gave me an offer and after we

came back home my dad told me that I

should take it and I wasn't really aware

of all the colleges back then in high

school I don't really know why I just

wasn't really into learning about all

the schools and where they were and

stuff like that I was just just into

playing baseball like in the present and

so he told me to take and I was like

okay that you know you know more than I

do in terms of school so so I'll I'll

accept UC Santa Barbara and that was a

great decision a great choice that my

dad told me to do I I went through

another learning process my freshman


because I would have to do everything on

my own now make food go to why choose a

time when to go to bed choose how much

sleep I should get you know all that

stuff and that was hard to to control my

blood sugar because I was so busy

especially at college I would ride my

bike to class I would play much more

baseball than I would in high school and

I experienced a lot of lows during

college because I was just so busy but

but after a while I learned how to

control my basal rate on my pump and I

learned more of what foods I should eat

what what helps that and Heather how to

better combat highs and lows and all

that stuff so yeah I definitely went

through another learning process my

freshman year certainly yeah so I wanted

to ask Billy I think a common thread

amongst diabetic athletes as they head

into college is and really anyone

diabetic or otherwise is that added

sense of independence and that can be a

great thing and it can force us to be

more accountable for our diabetes and

just of our of ourselves in general or

it can kind of lead us to push diabetes

to the backburner how were you able to

make sure that that wasn't the case and

that you stay dialed in in terms of your

treatment and your management of t1d

yeah my baseball performance would be

very influenced by my blood sugar if I

was high I couldn't run hard I can swing

hard I can throw hard my body would just

get just tired and achy and so much for

my performance would suffer in that and

also of course lows too I would get weak

and shaky and dizzy when I was low and

baseball requires a lot of lot of mental

focus and and you need you if your if

your brain is low on sugar than they

can't focus well so so that baseball is

one thing that really made you know made

me really focus on my blood sugar

because I I needed that I definitely

needed that

and plus if my blood sugar was slower

high I wouldn't be able to sleep fit and

then the next day I would be tired I

practice because of that so my whole

life would revolve her around how good

my blood sugar is you know as an athlete

so that was definitely a motivation for

that but but I I always had the

motivation to keep my blood sugar good

even before college and and independence

but College definitely helps me learn

how to be independent yeah I think it

certainly sounds like you did a

fantastic job of managing it as you kind

of transition to college you referenced

UCSB made it to the College World Series

talk about that experience you run the

road you said for 23 days it had to be

shipped insulin had to be shipped

different diabetic supplies how are you

able to continue to stay dialed in

during that period and what was just

that process like overall you said it

was sort of the time of your life so

tell us a little bit about that

experience yeah it was so much fun

so we took finals in Kentucky so we were

going through school through the

regionals and Super Regionals and right

before we got to Omaha we were done with

finals so they they basically flew out

some people to proctor attests our

finals in the hotel room in Kentucky so

right after bass I mean right after

school was done we all all our job was

was to play baseball in Omaha and you

know play baseball on this huge stadium

on national television so you know I had

no other worries about anything it was

only about baseball and and it was just

awesome I felt like a major leaguer they

they treated us like major leaguers

that's for sure and I got to play in the

major leagues like stadium so yeah it

was out of my life I had so much fun and

I remember in Nashville my blood sugar

would never come down and it could be

from one or two two reasons Nashville

was very hot humid

so the insulin could have gotten hot and

caused it to not work as well or it also

could have been adrenaline because this

was I think right after we won the

regionals so so I was I was really

excited and I can contain myself because

we're going to the Super Regionals now

and and it was really hot so my insulin

wasn't really working so I had to go

pick up another vial at Walgreens but

that was a weird time and and yeah it

was hectic it was hectic because

everything new was happening over there

so that was one thing I had to battle

but but after that my blood sugar level

not leveled off and that was able to

play and it was it was just off so

looking back on those 23 days is there a

moment or a day that kind of stands out

to you as being a high point of that

experience yeah we were playing Miami in

the College World Series this was game

number two there was a man on third and

I was up to that and my coach gave me

the squeeze sign so basically so I'm the

batter so I bunt and the runner on third

runs home and that is a very hard plate

to defend for the defense and if done

right it's it results in a score at home

plate so I remember he gave me the

squeeze sign and I looked up around the

stadium to all the people and I thought

to myself no one knows what I'm about to

do here I'm going to surprise everyone

in the stadium and so the pitcher threw

me a fastball and I bunted it and the

runner at third scored and that was

definitely a high point because because

I that was just a cool cool experience

absolutely I think across different

sports that being able to drive in a run

driving a teammate or you know my

background is foot

all kind of scoring and you know writing

with your teammates it's that

camaraderie and Brotherhood it certainly

sounds like you guys had a fair bit of

that you know being on the road for 23

days taking finals together away from

school do you think you were able to

rely on those guys from a diabetic

management standpoint as well were they

aware of your condition and how did you

kind of lean on those guys throughout

that process yeah so everyone knew that

I was diabetic everyone knew that I

would check my blood throughout the game

and drink Gatorade when I was low that's

my go-to drink

so yeah the they all supported me and

they knew what was going on if I went

and sat down them the dugout during

practice and the coaches knew too and

they were very accepting of that and

they let me sit down and and take care

of myself that was one thing too that I

was worried about when I was really

young is I don't know if the coaches

will get mad at me if I sit down during

practice but every coach I've had you

know understands and is willing to help

me win when it comes to blood sugar

issues so that's one thing that I would

I would tell to other diabetic athletes

the kids out there you know everyone's

here to help you you know with diabetes

and everyone's rooting for you so don't

don't feel bad don't feel like you're

letting the team down when you have to

sit out because you know that's just the

way life is for us and everyone else

understands and and everyone treated me

really great on my teams with diabetes

and and they were always willing to help

yeah I remember one time in college I

was at my friend's house and I went

really low and I ran out of stuff so my

friend ran to 7-eleven he biked he biked

to 7-eleven is fast he could and got me

Gatorade and Brattain brought it back

and yeah I'll never forget that

yeah and that he was one of my teammates

so that was awesome thing he did and

yeah my teammates were very accepting of

it yeah it's uh it's always really

humbling and moving to see friends kind

of spring into action and I think every

diabetic can kind of point to a time

where they were in a rough spot and you

know they didn't have glucose tabs

or you know Gatorade on them like in

your case and whether you know a friend

or a family member or you know someone

in some sort of supporting capacity kind

of jumped into action and was there to

kind of save the day and it's a it's

important to know that those people want

to do that and that in no way are you

being a burden on your team as an asset

or just on anyone in any sort of

environment by having diabetes you know

they do it like I said those people want

to be there they want to be there to

help you but I wanted to bring up

outside of diabetes you battled another

chronic illness and good answer and I

wanted to get your take on what that

experience was like and not only being a

diabetic but also being a cancer

survivor as well it's just a quite an

accomplishment and testament to your

toughness and your ability to overcome

adversity so talk to us about that

experience so I had stage one to stick

your cancer and this was August of 2017

yeah yeah August of 2017 and it was

really hard it was it was really hard

time there were points where I didn't

know what was going to happen I didn't

know what the outcomes were going to be

there were times where we didn't even

know if it was a good cancer or like you

for a better word like a less dangerous

cancer or the dangerous cancer we we

were we weren't too sure which one it

was and so those times were really hard

with all the uncertainty that that was

going on but once we found out exactly

what it was

and we found out all the procedures that

I was going to go through and all that

stuff it started to to be less scary

because I knew what was going on and so

I I took a chemotherapy in September I

think and it was Stage one and so I only

went in for a day and got an IV just for

a day so that was fortunate for me but

but yeah that was definitely tough chemo

made my blood sugar go high and I for

the next week or so I could barely move

because I was just so like tired and

beat up from the chemo because it's

basically poison so so yeah and yeah I

had blood sugar issues there but I would

say diabetes in my prior life helped me

be able to cope with it a little bit

because I'm used to needles I'm used to

closely watching my body in and taking

care of it and and changing my schedule

in order to accommodate for for my

diabetes and all that stuff so all that

stuff was not new to me but but yeah I

would say life of diabetes helped me be

better prepared for this so I am cancer

free now so so that's great and but I

still got diabetes that's probably not

going to go away for anytime soon but

but I'm managing it and I am I conquered

cancer and every day I'm choosing to

conquer diabetes and it's a battle every

day it's not easy but but I choose not

to be knocked down and I choose to

conquer and and to take control

yeah diabetes is one thing that really

taught me how to battle adversity

through baseball because baseball

there's a lot of striking out and all

that stuff so so yeah you know I learned

how to face adversity through through

diabetes that's for sure I love the

message Billy and it's I wanted to ask

you because I mean there are people that

are positive and I certainly sensed that

you're one of those people but you know

in August of 2017 you get that diagnosis

and what was going through your mind at

that point obviously you mentioned that

diabetes kind of prepared you for this

and certainly the University and

athletics can help prepare you for

dealing with the adversity

of a cancer diagnosis but how are you

able to stay in that positive frame of

mind with this second diagnosis the

second chronic illness kind of cropping

up yes I definitely went through a dark

time now you know I was really upset and

and angry and embarrassed because I'm

diabetic and now I have this new thing

and it was it was hard mostly because of

all the uncertainty yeah at first but

after I knew what was going on and stuff

like that I calmed down and and decided

to to battle the adversity battling

adversity as a decision and you have to

make that decision every day so yeah you

know it was it was really tough to

accept it at first really tough and you

know everyone's going to go through some

hard times in their lives and and it's

okay to to be upset sometimes but I

learned to to make the decision to

battle adversity I made the decision and

that's one thing that my coach would say

at UCSB it's a decision to to work hard

it's a decision to to focus it's the

decision that take care of your body

everything is a decision and we need to

make that decision because you're the

the one to take care of yourself so so

yeah you know I I eventually well not

eventually quickly I quickly came to the

realization that hey I'm in control I I

need to take care of this yeah and

strength is his decision and courage is

a decision and that's one thing I

learned through diabetes and and through

through my coach definitely I love it

yeah that's such an important mindset

and I wanted to ask Billy for people who

were struggling to make that decision

maybe they were just recently diagnosed

and maybe they're in denial about their

diabetes and they could just be going

through a rough patch what would be your

advice to that person to that diabetic

so that they could make that decision

and that they under that they can

understand how that decision was

their lives going forward life with good

blood sugar is basically a normal life

but yeah you know when you have good

control of your bullets blood sugar you

just feel so good and you feel normal

and and it's just such a reward for

working hard when by checking your blood

sugar off and by eating right by

exercising it's such a reward to have

good blood sugar and and after I got

this resell libre continuous glucose

monitor it I've been just feeling so

good and it's it's just so rewarding and

I'm so happy to have good blood sugar

because I can I can do so many fun

things like ride my bike with my friends

and play soccer and and play baseball

back then it's such a reward but but

don't one piece of advice I would say is

it's definitely hard it's definitely

hard and no one says it's easy so yeah I

had to acknowledge that it's it's not

easy it's difficult and you have to just

battle adversity and do it and it's very

rewarding when when you work hard and

deal with it and and everyone around me

has just been so accepting of it my

family is its rooting for me and always

taking care of me especially my mom and

all my friends too they they don't look

at me as at some weird person they

definitely don't they they just really

accept me for who I am and and they take

care of me and and I've never met a

person who looked down upon me because I

have to check my blood sugar and stuff

like that and so yeah I would say my

advice is it's just so awarded of

rewarding to have good blood sugar it's

it's just awesome and I feel so good

when my blood sugar is good yeah and on

the topic of conquering things and

overcoming adversity you talked earlier

about the next thing you have on your

list of things to accomplish is climbing

Mount Whitney so talked about

transitioning out of baseball and

trying to remain active trying to stay

fit and make sure that you're setting

goals that kind of push you outside your

comfort zone so I remember I was in the

hospital for my cancer and I was laying

on the bed and I told my dad all right

I'm gonna climb out with me so I want to

I not only want to get back on my feet

but I want to get back on my feet and

exceed and and go higher when I when I

got knocked down last year I just don't

want to be stagnant I want to get back

up and work even harder and try

something new and accomplish something

there so yeah Mount Whitney is 14,500

feet it's located in central California

and it's only mountains in Alaska or

higher so I thought that this would be a

fun experience and I actually tried it

this summer and I had to turn around I

was about I would say 13,000 feet and my

blood sugar was really going crazy I was

going low very quickly and then I would

eat stuff and drink stuff and I would go

really high really quickly when I would

try to balance my basal rate I would

sometimes turn off my pump or I would

sometimes lower my basal rate and all

that stuff and I would really try to do

combat my blood sugar but it just went

really crazy so I had to turn around and

even you know even having diabetes for

about 12 years I'm still learning it's

the learning process will never end so

I'm going to try to climb it next year

and hopefully I'll be successful but but

yeah it's all a learning process and I

have never been up to 13,000 feet before

and I never knew how to do that in terms

of diabetic stuff so so it's all a

learning process and you know we're all

going to get get blood sugar issues you

know no matter how old you are know no

matter how long you've had diabetes it's

all a learning process every day and one

thing that I want to focus on is not


that upset me of having to turn around

because I just didn't know how to

control it

so so now I'm going to announce and now

I have a little bit more experience and

knowledge on what to do so hopefully I

can do it next year but yeah I'm really

looking forward to it and it's just a

beautiful noun that's it's just awesome

and yeah it staying fit as a diabetic is

really important to continue to continue

to exercise and be active so I've I've

been running around my neighborhood

doing some runs and that's just been

really beneficial to my blood sugar as

well so I would encourage everybody to

exercise a little bit and exercise goes

a long way with diabetes I've learned I

learned that if I run a mile or two on

one day my blood sugar would remain low

or not not low but remain normal for the

next few days it would really help

keeping my blood sugar blood sugar

you know mild for the next few days you

know I could not run again for the next

few days but my blood sure I see signs

of it

staying normal so so a little bit of

exercise goes a long way and it helps

out a lot and we're very lucky to be

able to stay active as diabetics you

know we're very lucky that even with our

disease we could we could still do some

awesome things and fun things so so

that's about that stuff yeah absolutely

I think you know diet and then also

fitness are two of the most important

factors that if you can utilize those in

your life and and apply those to your

diabetes you're going to see massive

returns in terms of more stable blood

sugars just less bikes and obviously

less lows as well but you touched on

another important point Billy in that

diabetes is a learning process every day

and even for the people who have the

was dialed in a one sees and the best

treatment out there everyone has more to

learn and even the people with the best

management are going to have rough days

and there's always something more to

learn you know case in point in your

story Mount Whitney but at the same time

taking that having to turn around and

not being upset and frustrated and

disappointed by that experience learning

how to apply that the next time around

yeah you just use realization for all

diabetics to be able to apply that

mindset but Billy it was an honor

talking to you and do you have any of

anything else for the t1d community sure

I I don't know if this is sort of a

pliable to everyone but since I am no

longer playing baseball I had to adjust

my diet a little bit more to help my

blood sugar out because with baseball I

would just be running around every day

and so that would keep my blood sugar

down and I would have to eat a ton of

food to keep my caloric intake you know

even so so after baseball I decided to

eat less carbs and that would limit the

spike after meals so eating less carbs

helped me to even out my blood sugar a

lot more and I'm not sure if that's up

liable to everyone but that is what I

have tried and it's working out really

well and the blood sugar has been doing

good so yeah that's one thing I learned

very recently I'm a huge low carb diet

guy myself and as much as fitness and

exercise gets talked about and I I don't

want to underplay that at all it's

hugely important but if you can go about

your day and have you know like what I

like to do is a big egg scramble

breakfast with a bunch of veggies

there's no carbs in that that's a great

richer day well thank you and you have

to see much much more stability and then

you layer in the fitness on top of that

then you're really

cookin and if you can do those two

things and fitness and diet that's going

to go a long way yeah yeah and another

thing too is everyone is different

everyone's bodies react with certain

foods differently and everyone reacts to

exercise differently so so one thing to

do is really pay attention to to your

body some things that I say might not

work for you you know or might not work

is good for you or might even work

better for you like with me one thing

really brings on sugar tablets those

glucose tablets you bring up my blood

sugar more than it says that's one thing

I learned so so everyone's different and

and learn how your body reacts and your

body will thank you your blood sugar

will thank you like we said it's that

constant learning process and you gotta

you gotta be willing to to kind of put

in the time to research what works and

what doesn't for you it's such a huge

part of the process but Billy thanks so

much for coming on in I appreciate it

okay thank you so much for having me and

I enjoy talking with you I'm Billy

Frederick I have type one diabetes and I

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